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Hydra's Ideology in Captain America Winter Soldier

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damon-bronson
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"Kill 20 million to secure the lives of 7 billion." Why not? Hydra would kill potential criminals and make a safer and better world. It is only due to distrust of Hydra and the misconception that they want global domination that Shield was fighting against Hydra. Hail Hydra.
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HYDRA is run by humans, and many humans are ruled by prejudice. HYDRA never once specified a program to ensure bias based on race, religion, nationality, gender, class, sexuality, disability, skin color, etc would be put in place. Who's to say Hydra would pull the trigger on someone not because of their potential to be a criminal but because of the color of their skin?
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Furthermore, even with much of former SHIELD and the Winter Soldier on their side, HYDRA could not protect their helicarriers from a single attack; it's easy to see a villain like Loki, Ultron, or even a weaker antagonist like Aldrich Killian take over the program with ease and target innocent civilians - or politicians, secret agents, law enforcement, and/or military who stood in the way of their twisted evil plans.
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HYDRA had no way or desire to fight prejudice and corruption within their system, and had horribly weak defenses guarding a program that could kill all of mankind. They were not making the world safer or better; they were simply putting all of mankind, especially minority groups, at risk. SHIELD was right to destroy HYDRA and forsake their ideology - they did it not because of misconceptions about HYDRA but for the safety of the global population.
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Exactly, you all distrust Hydra so much. But I didn't see evidence of racism or such in what glimpses we had of the organization of Hydra.
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Hydra manage to take down SHIELD as well, for SHIELD was shut down after that. Hydra and SHIELD forces were evenly matched, but when you have a super-soldier with a vibranium shield charging through your heli-carriers, it is hard to defend your territory.
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HYDRA should have had hundreds of operatives on their helicarriers to protect it from internal and external threats, shuttling agents back and forth in a way similar to the International Space Station. The fact that they didn't shows extreme naivete. If some soldiers die shuttling to or from the helicarriers, so be it: certainly an organization that wants to sacrifice the lives of 20 million to ensure the safety of 7 billion wouldn't mind losing an extra dozen, hundred, or even thousand human lives in the 'effort' to safeguard mankind.
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Hydra was an undercover organization and hadn't expected their cover to be blown so soon. Hydra planned to launch the Insight carriers into space, and when the time is right activate its weapons. But the time wasn't right, and their forces were weak. Lastly, it was a Captain America movie, and in the MCU universe they never let the villain win, even despite overwhelming odds.
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I think Hydra's ideology is correct as the sacrifice of a few would ensure a better tomorrow. There could have been other means such as an engineered plague, simple weapons assault, turret development, but whatever it may be, it will result in a world that will be safe.
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HYDRA's ideology was flawed not because eliminating potential criminals would have made the world a better place, but because eliminating potential criminals makes you, in essence, a potential criminal. Anybody who has the power to kill everybody on this Earth with HYDRA's program is a potential criminal - and, by HYDRA's logic, should be killed. Therefore, HYDRA's insanely hypocritical targeting system program should be abandoned for a solution that won't enable prejudice, that won't have any potential to fall into unsavory hands, and that won't allow people to commit war crimes.
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HYDRA was founded on the belief that humanity could not be trusted with its own freedom. What we did not realize is that if you try to take that freedom, they resist. The war taught us much. Humanity needed to surrender its freedom willingly. After the war, S.H.I.E.L.D. was founded, and I was recruited. The new HYDRA grew, a beautiful parasite, inside S.H.I.E.L.D. For 70 years, HYDRA has been secretly feeding crises, reaping war. And when history did not cooperate, history was changed.
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This was flawed from the beginning. Freedom is something that has to be given to the people from the beginning. They cannot take it back later they cannot fight to get it back they must take it from the beginning and keep it forever.
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