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Frexit! will the French be next?

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From what I am seeing the French will be staying in the EU. They seem to be attacking England and refusing to do business after the vote to leave the EU. France is taking a firm stance with the EU.
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I think the French have made it clear they are backing the EU. It would be interesting to see one of the big guns leave but it won't happen. France leaving would possibly be enough to break up the EU for good. They will make sure that won't happen.
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It seems like there is a lot of sentiment against the EU from within other European countries. There was also an interesting concession made in the press release of some of the EU countries , i.e. six founding member states declared that they will “recognize different levels of ambition amongst Member States when it comes to the project of European integration.”


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Essentially they seem to be recognizing that Europe is far from monolithic, and they want to give member states mor Liberty on certain policy decisions that affect specific countries.
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Essentially they seem to be recognizing that Europe is far from monolithic, and they want to give member states mor Liberty on certain policy decisions that affect specific countries.
They have learned from this mistake that is for sure. They cannot continue to bully their way around and do whatever they want. They can but they will left with no members.
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The number one reason the British wanted out was dispute over border security. If they can meet the other countries half way on this issue it should keep anyone else from leaving.
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It seems like there is a lot of sentiment against the EU from within other European countries. There was also an interesting concession made in the press release of some of the EU countries , i.e. six founding member states declared that they will “recognize different levels of ambition amongst Member States when it comes to the project of European integration.”


Either way you look at it England leaving has made the EU better for the remaining members.
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I think that the EU was always a rather interesting and challenging idea (?experiment) in some ways. The cultures and attitudes (and patriotism/nationalism) make it virtually impossible to homogenize rules and currencies and policies... Free trade makes sense, but holding it all together is 'oh-so-difficult'.
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I don't think anyone else will be leaving the EU anytime soon. They will make sure to cater to the remaining members for a few years before putting their foot back on their throats.
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I posted in a different thread a few days ago... I read an interesting comment by a geopolitical commentator earlier... He said:
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"Someone I know, who has many friends in Britain, told me that she didn’t know anyone who favored a British exit. That was true. As the graduate of an elite college she is in touch with similar people around the world. This enclosure has profound social indications to consider, but in this case it created a psychological barrier to anticipating what was coming. When everyone you know thinks an idea is rubbish, it is hard to imagine that there is a majority out there that you haven’t met that doesn’t share your views."
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I do think that the EU is going to be making some rather major concessions going forward compared to their previous party line for members. Interesting times ahead?
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Ms Le Pen has declared that she is ‘Madame Frexit’ and has promised to hold a EU referendum within six months if she gets into power next year. She says that calls for referendums are “ringing throughout” Europe in the wake of the Brexit victory in the UK last week
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French Euroscepticism has been fueled by the economic troubles of the euro-zone crisis and the migrant crisis in Calais and other parts of France. The National Front has managed to capitalize on general dissatisfaction, fears about immigration and security concerns in the wake of the Paris attacks.
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The ruin and rubble of World War II had not been entirely cleared when France laid the foundations for the European Union. As former Interior Minister Jean-Pierre Chevènement rightly observed last week, France is the EU’s “founding nation par excellence, the only nation capable of taking the initiative to begin Europe’s construction at the start of the 1950s.”
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The French believe, rightly, there can be no Europe without the people of their own glorious nation. That corollary breathes life into France’s traditional conception of a united Europe and thus lends vitality to the continent’s abstract ideals.
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However, given the current political climate, and Le Pen’s undoubted political acumen, the issue of a Frexit vote is likely to be a major issue in the election, despite Hollande’s best efforts.
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The French are settling in and will not be leaving from what I am reading. There are a few articles out there trying to get the people to rally but not much. The initial scare with Brexit was enough to scare them even though it has evened out now.
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